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A popular theory quashed by Ronald D. Moore in the podcast for Islanded in a Stream of Stars
Spoilers after the cut.
Ronald D. Moore's commentary confirms there is absolutely no relationship between Kara Thrace or her father, and the 7th Cylon Model, Daniel. There it is folks.
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March 17 2009, 03:14:34 UTC 3 years ago Edited: March 17 2009, 03:27:27 UTC
I'm worried that the Kara Reveal will be full of lame-o fail.
Those bastards better not pull an RTD out of their arse. But more and more, I'm fearing they will.
March 17 2009, 03:33:01 UTC 3 years ago
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March 17 2009, 03:56:22 UTC 3 years ago
Yeah. Right. She was/is as much the Doctor's daughter as anyone can be someone's daughter with nobody having sex nor giving birth in the process.
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March 17 2009, 03:22:19 UTC 3 years ago
Might as well just wait for the end & see, it's not far off ...
March 17 2009, 03:30:09 UTC 3 years ago
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(I have been worried since the beginning of the whole mandala business that Starbuck was going to be justified with the ol' Chosen One Syndrome, and I'd like to think BSG is beyond that kind of writing, but DANG.)
March 17 2009, 04:13:47 UTC 3 years ago
It was interesting though that he intentionally spoiled something because he didn't want everyone's wild theories headed in the wrong direction. He obviously thought folks were getting too cold. I'm just surprised it bugged him enough to do that.
I'm starting to get the feeling that we won't really get much clarification about what Starbuck is, or if we do, the information will come a little too quickly to process with everything else that's going to be going on as it wraps in. We'll see very soon, anyway.
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"...I should probably say as a sidenote -- I know that there is a tremendous amount of speculation out there on the Internet -- that Kara is the daughter of Daniel or that Daniel, Daniel being the Cylon model that was killed or destroyed or aborted, however you want to choose to define it, by Cavil, that there's a connection between Daniel and Kara and that's part of the revelations that we're gonna reveal in the finale. I don't typically want to, like, put theories to rest, because it kinda spoils the enjoyment and fun of people in the show, however I do think it's worth saying that that is not part of the plan.
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In this particular case, I don't want people to really be distracted through the finale by this other idea which has gained a tremendous amount of currency on the Internet and among fan circles and that's probably my own fault, because I don't think I realized the impact that the backstory of Daniel would have in "No Exit." I sort of thought that it was an interesting story about, that defined something about Brother Cavil, or John Cavil, and his backstory and how he reacted to the threat of someone else being as beloved as he was. It was a sorta Cain and Abel type allegory. All those reasons, -- I just thought it was an interesting piece of backstory, but in recent weeks I've realized that the Cult of Daniel has grown and there's a tremendous amount, there's a LOT of people out there who are now investing a tremendous amount of time and energy and thought into the notion that Daniel is really a powerful figure in the show and mythos and is directly related to Kara, and I don't want anyone listening to this podcast -- I don't want you to go into the finale with your Daniel-hopes up too high, because that's really not part of the plan. And again, I apologize if people think that that was such a gigantic mislead or clue or something. That was not the intent and I don't think I anticipated how strongly that would be grabbed by people."
I'm posting this here because we cannot make spoiler-cuts over on Sitrep. Hope it's OK.
Meanwhile I'm glad RDM put this out before the finale...even though very few viewers will be likely to hear it in time...
March 17 2009, 19:54:39 UTC 3 years ago
Oh well. They're the writers, not me.
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March 17 2009, 18:39:18 UTC 3 years ago
However, I will say that Kara cannot, CANNOT remain "a bit of a mystery." I will grit my teeth and accept it if, as seems to be the case, the head!characters turn out to be just "angels" sent by a never-to-be-named "higher power." I guess I can live with that mystery.
But I'm sorry: you cannot kill a character like Starbuck, bring her back under mysterious circumstances, implant her and her magically refurbished Viper with directions to the lost 13th Colony, have her find her CORPSE, have her ask ALL SEASON LONG "what am I what am I what am I," and then say, "oooh! I guess we'll never really know!"
You just fucking cannot do that. You must make some attempt to solve the mystery. You can leave it a little vague if you must, but you can't just say "it's just one of those things! you get to explain it for yourself."
I can't make that clear enough, Ron Moore. If you vague out on me about that particular mystery, a great deal of the respect I have for the show will be cratered. That journey was incredibly important to the character and we have to have some idea of how and why it happened to understand what it means that she's come back.
I was TERRIFIED when I heard that his big breakthrough on writing the finale was "it's the characters, stupid." It's not JUST the characters. Sorry.
March 17 2009, 19:49:48 UTC 3 years ago
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March 17 2009, 19:52:10 UTC 3 years ago
While I liked the idea of Daniel being Kara's father, I had a feeling that wouldn't be the case. Ah well, the speculation was fun while it lasted.
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March 18 2009, 06:06:10 UTC 3 years ago
those who thought daniel was dreilide were looking way too far. kara's father was named for a reason - so people wouldn't think it was daniel.
people who say RDM has tricked us before. Bullshit to you. Maybe we shouldn't believe the ship is actually called the Galactica - by your logic.
my main point is that no resolution to kara's resurrection is a beautiful thing. of course tell us WHY she came back. but as to HOW she came back, a physical process as to how her body reconstructed itself... who cares? it's a beautiful thing to remain ambiguous and up to interpretation and i say leave it at that. i personally hope for no resolution as to the physical means to her resurrection. leave it at a mythical level, please.
March 18 2009, 06:14:02 UTC 3 years ago
what he said was that he built the story around one he had written. he managed to adhere to continuity as opposed to being a slave to it.
what is continuity? it's not having a story planned from day 1.
it's when the ship takes a missile hit - there's a mark next episode.
it's when someone is injured - there's 2 to 3 episodes of recuperation.
it's when you ask a question - and then you answer it.
i'd really like to know how making-it-up-as-they-went-along affected the shows continuity. really, i'm curious.